From the Sun-Times:
Sun-Times' questions, and Obama campaign's answers
April 23, 2007
The Sun-Times first sought to interview Sen. Barack Obama on March 14 about indicted
businessman and longtime supporter Antoin "Tony" Rezko and a series
of troubled low-income housing deals involving Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp. Obama's
staff asked for written questions. It responded Sunday but left many questions
unanswered and didn't directly address some other questions.
What follows are the Sun-Times' questions, asked in the preliminary stages of
the newspaper's investigation, and the answers received in an e-mail from Robert
Gibbs, communications director for the senator's presidential campaign:
Sun-Times question: Please explain what legal work the senator performed on each
of those Rezmar projects. I have a copy of a legal bill showing Sen. Obama worked
on the Central Woodlawn project. Please include the number of hours he spent on
each Rezmar deal, the dates he worked on those deals, and to whom he reported
at the firm, whether that was Allison Davis and/or William Micelli.
Obama campaign answer: Senator Obama worked on several projects in which the firm's
principal client was a not-for-profit corporation. The projects entailed negotiations
between the firm's primary not-for-profit client and the Rezmar-related entity
that served as co-general partner or co-venturer of the not-for-profit.
Once the negotiations between the not-for-profit and Rezmar-related entity were
completed, the firm represented the combined entity, usually an Illinois limited
partnership or Illinois limited-liability company.
The Senator, relatively inexperienced in this kind of work, was assigned to tasks
appropriate for a junior lawyer. These tasks would have included reviewing documents,
collecting corporate organizational documents, and drafting corporate resolutions.
The Senator reported primarily to former partner Allison Davis and occasionally
to William Miceli.
Q: At the time of those deals, Tony Rezko was a client of the senator's firm,
a campaign donor to the senator, a personal friend, and a business partner with
the senator's boss, Allison Davis. But Mr. Rezko was also a landlord to many constituents
living in the state Senate district that Senator Obama represented at the time.
And many of those Rezmar properties had fallen into disrepair, while Rezmar began
to fail financially. Did the senator ever talk to Tony Rezko about the deteriorating
status of his housing projects?
A: To reiterate: the firm did represent entities in which Tony Rezko had an interest
but never Tony Rezko, personally. Senator Obama does not remember having conversations
with Tony Rezko about properties that he owned or any specific issues related
to those properties.
Q: In this situation, how did the senator decide whose interests took precedence:
Mr. Rezko, Mr. Davis, the senator's constituents?
A: The Senator, then a junior lawyer, did not have the authority, the assignment
or the opportunity to make such decisions. But it is important to keep in mind
that the whole enterprise of affordable housing is geared toward improving housing
stock for those unable to afford market-priced housing. The goals of the firm's
clients were consistent with the needs of communities benefiting from affordable
housing initiatives.
Q: By the time the Fund for Community Revitalization and Redevelopment closed
on its final deal with Rezmar in 1998, Rezmar was having financial problems, according
to a 1998 lawsuit over Rezmar's failure to pay its mortgage on an earlier housing
deal. That lawsuit was filed several months before Rezmar and the Fund closed
on that final housing deal, which included an investment from Allison Davis' company,
American Housing Partners. [Editor's note: American Housing Partners was to invest
$250,000 in Rezmar's last low-income housing deal, state records show. But state
officials say that, in the end, American Housing didn't participate in the deal.]
A: The Senator is unaware of Mr. Davis' company making any investments in housing
deals involving the Fund for Community Redevelopment and Revitalization. We have
checked this point with the Miner firm, which also reports no knowledge of such
an investment.
Q: Was the senator aware of Rezmar's financial problems at the time?
A: No.
Q: Did the senator or his law firm alert the Fund for Community Revitalization
and Redevelopment about Rezmar's financial problems? If not, why not? Would such
notification have been necessary under legal ethics?
A: The Senator, and, upon inquiry the firm, have no knowledge of a lawsuit having
been filed prior to consummation of this housing transaction. We understand that
such a lawsuit would have in all probability have to have been disclosed as a
condition to closing on additional loans, which would in turn have raised red
flags with the lenders. The Senator has no additional information.
Q: Many Rezmar government-financed housing deals have ended up in legal battles,
including foreclosure. Several Rezmar buildings are now boarded up, and others
are in need of major repairs. Taxpayers have lost millions of dollars on these
deals. While Senator Obama has called Mr. Rezko a legal client, campaign contributor
and a friend, there's ample evidence that Mr. Rezko was a slum landlord. Was the
senator aware then that Mr. Rezko's projects were deeply mired in physical and
financial problems? Does the senator think it is fair to characterize Mr. Rezko
as a slum landlord?
A: Housing partnerships in which low-income-housing tax credits are syndicated
frequently struggle financially. The reasons for the problems such partnerships
struggle are complex but frequently include urban crime, demographic changes and
social factors outside the control of any developer or owner. Senator Obama was
not otherwise aware of financial and physical problems attributable to misconduct
by Mr. Rezko.
Q: Rezmar's buildings were often cited for code violations, including lack of
heat in the winter. One third of Rezmar's government-financed housing projects
were in the state Senate district represented by Sen. Obama. Did anyone ever complain
to the senator about the physical conditions of Rezmar's buildings? If so, who?
A: Senator Obama did follow up on constituency complaints about housing as matter
of routine. Further questions about their condition should be addressed to the
CHA [Chicago Housing Authority]. It is our understanding that, according to CHA,
the buildings owned by Rezmar were maintained in good condition and good standing.
Q: Did the senator ever complain to anyone -- government officials, Rezmar or
Tony Rezko -- about the physical conditions of Rezmar's buildings?
A: Again, Senator Obama did follow up on constituency complaints about housing
as matter of routine.
Q: Did the senator and Tony Rezko ever discuss the financial problems facing Rezmar,
which eventually abandoned its affordable-housing deals? If so, what was the nature
of those conversations?
A: No.
Q: Even before the Illinois Housing Development Authority foreclosed on some Rezmar
properties, the authority was pressuring Rezmar to pay its delinquent mortgages
or face foreclosure. At the time, Sen. Obama was a state senator -- and a lawyer
involved in Rezmar's deals. Did Mr. Rezko or anyone at Rezmar ask Sen. Obama for
help? And did the senator's dual roles pose any difficulties?
A: No. As he was not asked for help, there was no conflict in what you describe
as a "dual role."
Q: Did the senator ever discuss Rezmar's financial problems with anyone at the
law firm of Davis Miner & Barnhill? If so, whom did he discuss it with? And
when did those conversations occur?
A: The firm advises us that it unaware of any such conversations.
Q: When did the senator learn of Rezmar's financial problems -- problems that
eventually ended up costing taxpayers millions of dollars in unpaid loans, foreclosure
costs, etc.?
A: The Senator had no special knowledge of any financial problems.
Q: Given all the problems Rezmar's buildings caused for many South Side neighborhoods,
including those the senator represented, does the senator still consider Mr. Rezko
a friend? And can you explain. What would the senator say to his constituents
who live near Rezmar buildings that are boarded up, subject to numerous vacancies,
and in need of repairs?
A: The Senator is troubled by the allegations against Mr. Rezko and expects that
the legal system will runs its course and resolve the charges brought. Nothing
in the prior political or personal relationship with Mr. Rezko will affect the
Senator's independent judgment in this matter.
Q: While Rezmar's buildings were going to seed, the senator continued to take
campaign donations from Mr. Rezko. How does the senator explain this?
A: As mentioned above, housing partnerships struggle for a myriad of reasons and
the Senator was unaware of any misconduct at the time that he accepted Mr. Rezko's
political support.
Q: How many fund-raisers has Tony Rezko had for the senator since 1990? When were
those fund-raisers? Where were those fund-raisers? How much was raised?
A: I don't know the exact amount raised, but would refer you to an answer provided
to the Sun-Times in November 2006 about fund-raising in the U.S. Senate race.
Q: Sources have said the senator has long used the words "political godfather"
to describe how he views Tony Rezko. Is that true? If so, what does that mean,
and why does -- or did -- he feel that way?
A: The Senator has never used that phrase in relation to Tony Rezko.
Q: Previously, the senator told the Sun-Times he met Tony Rezko through David
Brint. How did the senator meet David Brint? When and where did that occur? What
were the circumstances of the meeting? What was the senator's relationship with
David Brint when Brint introduced the senator to Tony Rezko?
A: The Senator met David Brint because Mr. Brint was recruiting him for another
employment opportunity. There was no preexisting relationship.
Q: Did David Brint and / or Tony Rezko help recruit the senator to join the law
firm of Davis Miner Barnhill?
A: No.
Q: When did the senator first meet Allison Davis? What were the circumstances?
A: The Senator met Allison Davis when he interviewed with Miner Barnhill.
Q: Were there any legal conflicts and / or any other problems for the senator
in working for the Davis law firm, whose list of clients included companies owned
by Davis and not-for-profits that Davis helped create?
A: No. Any conflicts in the situation described would be ones for the lawyer with
the separate business interests.
Q: Allison Davis and Tony Rezko have been business partners for years. When did
the senator become aware of their business relationship? Was it before he went
to work for the law firm? Did the senator work on any legal cases involving companies
or entities jointly owned by Tony Rezko and Allison Davis?
A: Mr. Davis is no longer a partner at the firm. Senator Obama did not know about
a business relationship between Allison Davis and Tony Rezko while Mr. Davis was
at the firm.
Q: In the ethics statements the senator filed while serving in the state Senate,
he listed all the clients that his law firm represented. Now, the senator's former
colleague, William Miceli, has told me the firm has compiled a list of all cases
that the senator, in particular, worked on while he was at the law firm -- and
provided that list to the senator. Please provide us with that list of the clients
whose cases the senator worked on, including the names of clients, the dates he
worked on those cases, any court case numbers.
A: The rules of professional responsibility binding on the firm precludes its
public dissemination of client-confidential information, including the fact of
representation. If there are specific questions about specific representations,
we will attempt to answer them with the assistance of the firm -- as we have done
in response to earlier questions above.
Q: Please provide us the date the senator went to work for the Davis Miner Barnhill
firm, and the date he left.
A: Approximately Feb. 1993-Oct. 2002.
Q: Ald. Arenda Troutman's father, Benjamin, developed a low-income housing project
in 1996 with the help of the Fund for Community Redevelopment and Revitalization,
at the same time the Fund was a partner with Rezmar. The senator's law firm represented
Benjamin Troutman at that time. Did the senator work on Mr. Troutman's case? If
so, what legal services did the senator provide?
A: He did not work on this case.
Q: Does the senator have any financial interest in any business owned by Tony
Rezko, Dan Mahru or Allison Davis? Has the senator ever had any interest in businesses
owned by those three men, including any of the housing developments involving
Rezmar?
A: No.
Q: Please describe the senator's relationship with Tony Rezko's former partner,
Daniel S. Mahru. How often did the senator meet with Mr. Mahru regarding the Rezmar
real estate deals that involved the senator's former law firm?
A: The Senator knows Mr. Mahru, who is a political contributor. That is the extent
of the relationship.
Q: Is there any other information the senator would like to provide regarding
his relationship with Mr. Rezko, his involvement with Mr. Rezko's housing deals,
his relationship with Allison Davis or anything else relating to these issues.
A: No. The Senator has answered all questions here to the best of his knowledge.